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 Science has these two main target points: insight and know-how. Insight tries to understand. Science has these two main target points: insight and know-how. Insight tries to understand.
 Know-How tries to find methods to use and employ the knowledge.  Know-How tries to find methods to use and employ the knowledge. 
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 Where do we see spiritual questions in this framework? How to deal with faith, with ethics Where do we see spiritual questions in this framework? How to deal with faith, with ethics
 and with the reality of God? Let us think deeper ...  and with the reality of God? Let us think deeper ... 
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 discuss and observe the behavior of the people. But it is difficult to judge whether there discuss and observe the behavior of the people. But it is difficult to judge whether there
 is a spiritual being involved in the processes of the temple. We cannot see it. We cannot touch is a spiritual being involved in the processes of the temple. We cannot see it. We cannot touch
-it. We cannot hear it. Is it there? Does it exist?  +it. We cannot hear it. Is it there? Does it exist? What we can definitely say is that people 
 +act as if it exists. It is part of their life, their actions, their life perspective. 
  
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-**  ... **+** Biblical Position ... **
  
 +There are very basic difficulties in dealing with the spiritual world. Humans seem to be a part
 +of it, in the sense that humans are spiritual beings. There seem to be people gifted to sense
 +spiritual phenomena, some more than others, as it is with all human talent, which is widely and
 +diversely distributed. But beyond the human mind it seems to be difficult to pin down the 
 +direct effect of the spiritual world. 
  
 +What is the cause of it? Is it impossible that the spiritual world and the physical world as
 +we know it interact? No, I do not say that. But I say that we have difficulties of proving
 +the concept in the same way as we prove other scientific concepts. What can be the reason?
 +To some extent this seems to be the effect of living beings. If you would not be able to observe,
 +touch or hear some being, you would only be able to investigate it if it causes effects
 +in a repeatedly observable way. If it changes its behavior, if it even hides itself from you,
 +you will not be able to do much. 
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 +There are further points which complicate the relationship between the spiritual world and
 +the human world. Let us have a look into the words of the prophet Isaiah, talking about the
 +separation of God and mankind: 
  
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 1 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, or his ear dull, that it cannot hear; 1 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, or his ear dull, that it cannot hear;
 2 but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear. 2 but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear.
-</color> (Jesaja 59, 1-2)+</color> (Isaiah 59, 1-2) 
 + 
 +Even if God is able to do what he wants, if he is the Lord, the most influential power of 
 +the universe, if he hides himself, you will not be able to find him. You will not be able  
 +to detect him. All your observations will go vain. He can play the cat-and-mouse game with us, 
 +but we have no chance of ever catching him. 
  
 +Does that mean we should give up, as many scientists have given up today? No, we should not give
 +up. We should play the game in a reasonable way. The only reasonable step here is to address God in a
 +proper way, to get him to answer us. And he has promised to be open to that. When we come to him
 +in an appropriate way. It is a personal way. It is a way which starts to realize who he is and
 +what he is. His holiness and his justice are a constitutive part of this process. There is much
 +to learn and to explore here, for scientists, and everyone else as well. 
 (Roland Potthast) (Roland Potthast)
  
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